At 11:32 AM 8/16/95, Jason Weisberger wrote:

like using a "security envelope" to mail cash or putting the club on your car. It presents just enough of an obstacle to keep honest people honest.

As the Mitnick experience shows, the vulnerability of the providers' host systems is a concern not addressed by link-oriented schemes such as SSL. Longer keys for SSL would not have improved the protection on the 30,000 credit card numbers he stole. d/ -------------------- Dave Crocker +1 408 246 8253 Brandenburg Consulting fax: +1 408 249 6205 675 Spruce Dr. page: +1 408 581 1174 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 USA dcrocker@brandenburg.com