I think it's time - messages to Pr0duct Cypher (sp?) have begun to appear on C-punks and on at least one of the Usenet groups; I think it's time for alt.crypto-traffic, or alt.W.A.S.T.E (from Pynchon's _The Crying of Lot 49_ - I think it was Tim May who first suggested alt.W.A.S.T.E). ... -- Greg Broiles ".. has bizarre Cyberanarchist theories relating greg@goldenbear.com to human punishment." -- L. Detweiler

I don't recall whether it was Eric (Hughes) or me that specifically came up with this....we were riffing on various screwy ideas and this one popped up. The biggest concern is that the "ideal" name would be "alt.w.a.s.t.e." except that the period at the end violates the naming conventions. In any case, various "pool" groups exist, such as the *.test groups (as mentioned by others recently), flame groups, etc. I used "alt.fan.david-sternlight" and "alt.sternlight" for my "BlackNet" experiment some months back, though the only encrypted messages sent to BlackNet, that I saw, were posted on Cypherpunks. (In general, _not_ a good idea.) Speaking of Pynchon, an amazing piece of news!, My non-W.A.S.T.E mailbox contained a message today revealing the actual location, in Aptos no less, of Thomas Pynchon. Yes, you read this right. Pynchon, not photographed since his high school yearbook photo 40 years ago, a total cipher, has been living not more than a few miles from me all these years. It seems that in the early morning hours of January 28, 1990, someone accessed the Department of Motor Vehicles computer files and got a printout of the elusive man's home address, personal characteristics, etc. A copy of this was forwarded to someone who studies Pynchon, and thence to me, for reasons I won't go into right now. The implications for Cypherpunks, privacy, and Pynchon as roadkill on the digital highway are clear. (For those of you who have no idea what I am talking about, or why this is so significant, ignore this. For those of you who appreciate the import of this event, I will have the document with me at the Cypherpunks meeting on Saturday!) --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power:2**859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.