Subject says it. Idle talk can wait until legislation doesn't matter... and it won't when there's freely available source and binaries for a secure telnet, a private/anonymizing web browser/server/proxy, terminal and bbs programs, file transfers, etc. I think these are at the moment a bit more important than digital cash (when these exist, e-cash will follow). There's lots of work to be done. Whatever happened to "cypherpunks write code"? it seems that various governments are writing laws a lot faster... --- "Mutant" Rob <wlkngowl@unix.asb.com> Send a blank message with the subject "send pgp-key" (not in quotes) for a copy of my PGP key.