On 18 Jul 96 01:20:16 -0800, tcmay@got.net wrote:

I wonder when and how raids in the U.S. moved from the "Come out with your hands up" verbal announcement (for the cases that needed more than a knock on the door) to this blast-in-the-doors approach, where the raiders are dressed in "tactical black" and are wearing black Nomex hoods and carrying MP-5s and blast any "perp" who looks at them cross-eyed?

OTOH, you have to admit that the possibility of being attacked by a (most likely) better armed criminal has bothered many cops - it has to be a rather stresful job. Sadly, they seem to either a) overreact as noted above or b) be led by idiots who order the above... I used to be a fidonet point off of a board run by a cop. He was very reasonable, and unfortunately seemed to be right at the point where he had enough "empowerment" to be blamed but not enough to shine a little common sense into things... Almost like Vietnam - the grunts get shot and ridiculed because the desk-pilots can't make a valid policy. I liked Tom Clancy's description of the CIA: "We have a lot of people who are good at ordering their martninis shaken, not stirred."

As people as diverse as Marine Colonel Jeff Cooper and Watergate felon G. Gordon Liddy have noted, any black-clad "ninjas" entering a home at 4 a.m. without clearly announcing themselves are asking for trouble. (Liddy got in a lot of trouble for calling for "head shots" on rampaging BATFags. Frankly, I'm not a good enough shot--especially in high-stress situations--to make head shots with my H & K .45, so I can only hope to make torso shots.)

least two of them with me. (Interestingly, the same class of folks who want to ban "military-grade crypto" are also seeking to ban Kevlar vest-piercing rounds. Fortunately, though KTW ammo is no longer available to "marks" (= civilians), .45 ACP +P does a pretty good job. Certain +P .357 Magnum What's really funny is that nobody seems to notice that criminals aren't

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