Connie Sadler is quite displeased at what Berzerk finds delightful. I would not call this list a boys' club but the vast majority is male. People talk to please themselves. This list is statistically unusual. We have lots of guys, minarchists, anarchists, eccentrics, & tech- heads. We kinds of people are amused at what berzerk finds amusing. I doubt that Sadler's principles are offended, but rather her interests. If fun had been poked at guys then she would have been amused. In the US women are accorded special rights at being a "victimized group". There are many places that your interests will be specially catered to. The Cypherpunks' list is just about as "politically incorrect" as you can get & we like it this way. We are sick of being censored & vilified by society at large. We also do not like our rights of freedom of association being trampled. Your demands that your sensibilities be respected is a demand that our speech be censored. We would be quite pleased by any contributions to the Cypherpunks' cause that you have to offer. But you will not get a good reception here by demanding rights that you believe are awarded to state certified "victims" groups. Of course, I'm not really familiar with you. Possibly you think of yourself more as an individual than as a member of a particular group & possibly you will be an asset to Cypherpunks & your first post was not representative of yourself. In that case, we would be pleased to have your company. Wishing for the best, Gary Jeffers
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We are sick of being censored & vilified by society at large. We also do not like our rights of freedom of association being trampled. Your demands that your sensibilities be respected is a demand that our speech be censored. We would be quite pleased by any contributions to the Cypherpunks' cause that you have to offer. But you will not get a good reception here by demanding rights that you believe are awarded to state certified "victims" groups.
Not bad, Gary - you've managed to manufacture a non-existent consensus of cypherpunk feeling/opinion from thin air, *and* used it to address an argument nobody made in the first place. But what will you do for an encore? Seriously, speak for yourself. I'm in no hurry to call the P.C. cops of either the left or the right wing down on Cypherpunks, but a little bit of respect isn't so much to ask, either. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.5 iQCVAgUBLi3bdH3YhjZY3fMNAQFebgQApyyZy5lG1tyGcmd/hsmTETIdENT+UzkY tFkJBx1xCpoe9zJvvm91epu7IRRg/dQ6onwEYoeIc5KzIX4ofOUdJTFyLi3VrOS1 4TvXG7qrXGDegWscI1PBCG2bnE+xREdNsK+SU/eOozQJDIklWT1fJycXNv3uCiMv xTQq5onY5RA= =Hj4b -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Connie was being silly and bitchy. If Bezerk had launched an attack on women she would have been entitled to be offended, and could have answered him instead of demanding that he be silent. He did not attack women. He said that he enjoyed the films representation of woman as dumb incompetent sex bimbos. Connie was offended that he should enjoy such a thing. Tough shit Connie. Lots of people enjoy stuff I don't like either. You could complain that the film is false - but then you would look like an even bigger idiot because the film makes not the slightest pretence of being realistic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we James A. Donald are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. jamesd@netcom.com
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