
AGENCIES GET NEW REPORT CARDS ON Y2K READINESS Saying "the picture is a gloomy one," Congressman Stephen Horn, chair of the House subcommittee responsible for overseeing government progress on averting the Y2K problem, has given out new report cards to federal agencies. Three departments flunked: Justice; Health & Human Services; and State. The Defense Department gets a D-minus. Three departments get A grades: Small Business Administration; Social Security Administration; and the National Science Foundation. The Social Security Administration began working on the problem in 1989, eight years before most other government agencies. - USA Today, Nov. 24, 1998

On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Anonymous wrote:
Wonder what the implications of this are?
The Defense Department gets a D-minus.
So this means they flunked too. Since having the DOD non compliant could be a national security risk. That means they flunked, but we couldn't say so. How many nukes are going to be checking the number of days since they last talked to launch control? What are the chances they are date sensitive? What happens if they should lose contact for greater than a certain number of days? Do they assume we've been nuked? How about the russians? The Chinese? What if the entire US DOD C&C network goes down. Is it an EMP? Is it infowar? Is it Y2K?
Was this graded on a curve? ;-O I thought SSA was still two years off target.
This A/B/C/D/F stuff worked in school, but on a complex remediation effort doesn't really mean anything. Is that an 'A' for effort? jim

At 11:45 PM -0800 11/24/98, Jim Burnes - Denver wrote:
(in best Dr. Strangelove German accent) Ah, but vat vud be ze point of a system designed to automatically respond to a decapitation of command attack, you see, if it could not independently decide that it must implement its emergency war orders? Vy vud ve have programmed them if not to let their processors decide? Zat ist der beauty von dem system, mein fellow Cypherpunks! (Dr. Strangelove can no longer restrain his excitement and rolls out of the room in his wheelchair.) Hundreds of missile silos, dozens of submarines...all with densepacked code written in the 60s by persons long retired or dead. All potentially set for Launch on Warning under the Emergency War Orders. Worse, the Sovs had more primitive systems, more fragile systems, with at least a couple of accidental launches that we know about (exploded in their silos). And no money to even maintain their systems, let alone upgrade and remediate their flawed code. (There is much evidence that the Sovs also are using this "we may not be able to control all of our systems" ploy as more leverage for more bailouts, more handouts, more buyouts of their obsolete technology. "Send us another $50 billion and we'll promise to spend some of it hiring programmers to start looking at our Y2K problems...the rest we'll of course deposit in the Swiss bank accounts set up for our KGB, GRU, Red Army, and Party apparatchniks. And our Mafia...mustn't forget our Mafia.") As I have been predicting for most of this year, the smartest thing our DOD may do is to use the information chaos of Y2K to go for a DECCOM (Decapitation of Command) strike as the clock hits midnight in Moscow. Knock out their sub pens on the Kola Peninsula, hit the missile facilities in Semipalatinsk, knock out Vladivostok, and do a lay down over Moscow. A one-way ticket back to the 19th century. A few megadeaths may be a reasonable price to pay, esp. Russkie megadeaths. As the potato chip ad puts it, "they'll make more." In any case, the nuclear accident/counterforce strike scenario is just one of many reasons I plan to be safely at home as Y2K unfolds, with certain friends and family, stocked up with various supplies and prepared to watch the fun unfold. Safely away from large cities and targets. --Tim May "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, just the way the President did." ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

Tim May wrote:
I don't quite understand this. Look at this from the standpoint of the person in control of the American arsenal. The goal of this person, to me, seems to be prevention of American deaths (perhaps by a threat of mutual annihilation). You say that there is a possibility of a scenario A that some Russian missiles may be launched accidentally, without a first attack from the US. To prevent this, you suggest scenario B: a preventative attack against Russia. I think that your scenario has a higher mathematical expectation of the number of american deaths than waiting to see if Russians attack first. Under scenario B, attack on Russia is a 100% probability event. The conditional probability of a counterattack is high as well, with the probability higher (in my judgment) than the probability of a _accidental_ unprovoked attack in scenario A. The conditional expectation of the number of warheads reaching their targets, assuming that it is a authorized retaliatory strike, is again higher (in my opinion) than the number of warheads that would be launched accidentally. What his means is that scenario B has a higher expectation of american fatalities. I do not see a point in doing this. - Igor.
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Anonymous
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Declan McCullagh
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Jim Burnes - Denver
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Tim May