Re: ECPA (Was: University logging mail to anon.penet.fi)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Josh M. Osborne" <stripes@va.pubnix.com> writes: <snip>
Even if we were in a more libertarian society you run the risk of being boycotted by potential customers (of corse the analagy breaks down somewhat, in a very libertarian society oyu might be able to run a profatable ISP selling to the very nich market of people who want to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence of themselves).
As the list's designated "very libertarian" advocate, I must object. Here is what you must sign to become a member of the Libertarian Party: "I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals." Libertarian Pledge required for membership. <signature>___________________________. To "to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence"[SIC] of himself, one must violate this pledge, and there would no-doubt still be legal results. This points up the difference between libertaria (not utopia) and anarchy. Anything _DOESN'T_ go in libertaria. If you see a victim, there's almost certainly a crime, and if someone chose to threaten, harass, etc. me, I would want it so. Of course, there are exceptions. For example: If I join a mailing list which sometimes "harasses" me due to insufficient spell-checking/proof-reading of certain posts, there might still be the common-law defense that Jim Ray "came to the nuisance," and therefore I am still not due any compensation.<g> I can always unsubscribe, and some people probably wish I would. ;) [NOTE: IANAL!] JMR <snip> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh iQCVAwUBME8RWm1lp8bpvW01AQHXVgP9GsUelVcy4BFo/qt+Gm2JqdaHOlGUAvnP eFWXXT7hhzuC5Lz7vdBOb7itNGVahOVmDWPZxAbGJd/sJtd7YAfn4I8uMCiFieXZ dG7atBLLB66tBcsLYq/gXABHg2Z+MMojTf8A5XXCdqCJl4KoeaVckOEnKjR6uoCE Q9WrJiykH8Y= =xdDV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Regards, Jim Ray "As sensitive and broad-minded humans, we must never allow ourselves to be in any way judgmental of the religious practices of other people, even when these people clearly are raving space loons." -- Dave Barry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PGP key Fingerprint 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 Key id. # E9BD6D35 James M. Ray <liberty@gate.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Support Phil! email zldf@clark.net or see http://www.netresponse.com/zldf ________________________________________________________________________
On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Jim Ray wrote:
Even if we were in a more libertarian society you run the risk of being boycotted by potential customers (of corse the analagy breaks down somewhat, in a very libertarian society oyu might be able to run a profatable ISP selling to the very nich market of people who want to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence of themselves).
To "to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence"[SIC] of himself, one must violate this pledge, and there would no-doubt still be legal results.
Clearly threats of violence are not considered legal by most libertarians, including the Libertarian Party of the US. Furthermore, there is no reason why an ISP has to connect to another ISP. ISPs that do more harm than good may not be invitied to participate in major switiching centers. -Thomas
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