John Young <jya@pipeline.com> writes:
On June 26 the court handling Jim's case extended the time from June 30 to July 11 for the USA to file an indictment.
This is from an on-line docket of the case via Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) a subcription service for federal courts.
No indication that Jim has been released, jailed since his arrest on May 16. No reason given for repeated waiver of right to a speedy trial.
The docket's at:
Thanks for keeping us up to date. Jim always seemed to me to be a loony, but I never (and still don't) think he's capable of the things the warrent alleges him to have been planning. Peter Trei DISCLAIMER: The above is my opinion, no one else's.
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Peter Trei wrote:
John Young <jya@pipeline.com> writes:
On June 26 the court handling Jim's case extended the time from June 30 to July 11 for the USA to file an indictment.
This is from an on-line docket of the case via Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) a subcription service for federal courts.
No indication that Jim has been released, jailed since his arrest on May 16. No reason given for repeated waiver of right to a speedy trial.
The docket's at:
Thanks for keeping us up to date. Jim always seemed to me to be a loony, but I never (and still don't) think he's capable of the things the warrent alleges him to have been planning.
Agreed. The time I met Jim he seemed like a loon. A harmless one at that... (The stinkbomb attacks are about as far as he would go. (And I happen to know that he is guilty of at least one of those.)) The government seems pretty afraid of someone who only has a history of petty vandalism with chemicals. I wonder what else they are afraid of and to what lengths they will go to stop it. Reminds me of some of the "government is dead" threads of a couple of years back. My response was something to the effect of "The government is not like an old man dying in a corner. It is more like an old man having an epeliptic seizure in a crowded mall with lots of guns.". If the govenrment is on the way to losing its power over the people, they are going to take as many of us down with them on the way out. alano@teleport.com | "Those who are without history are doomed to retype it."
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Reminds me of some of the "government is dead" threads of a couple of years back. My response was something to the effect of "The government is not like an old man dying in a corner. It is more like an old man having an epeliptic seizure in a crowded mall with lots of guns.". If the govenrment is on the way to losing its power over the people, they are going to take as many of us down with them on the way out.
Though neither the USSR nor the DDR did when they "went out." Likewise the Catholic Church when it "went out" (as a secular political power in Europe) at some point between 1400 and 1900. Those three institutions killed the bulk of their victims in their earlier more virile phases than they did in their senesence. That seems likely with our government as well. Single incidents like Bell's arrest prove nothing. Operation Sun Devil looked big at the time but did not lead to an effective government crackdown on cyberspace. It was actually a tactical and strategic loss for them. If Bell gets a dismissal or pleads to minor charges, it will be a loss for the Feds as well. Their losses against Phil Z and Jake Baker exposed the weakness of their control regimes when applied to the Net. DCF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM8E1aoVO4r4sgSPhAQEjFwQAybSLQ3dW+N+Bf9lkgIt3+d2aIF22vDKa mO0zJ93e0PnvlnrLDOdHruTJUhXnj433JswgYptp6FYFhyoAe9LkcmhXmxTQiKGS 8DWjMV7CtTOLrht046QL2Y4kCqE/n31diQacgsxp07tLF+3Zw8OraqFHJC5PczWH RzIVPBDV90Q= =L8B/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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