Re: Crippled Notes export encryption

At 7:25 AM 1/25/96, Lucky Green wrote:
The big companies are fighting? Where did you get that idea? IBM/Lotus just gave the feds the keys. Not a single one of the major players has challenged the government in any meaningful way. Sure, they make a lot of noise as to how they dislike the regulations, but they certainly aren't making a sincere effort of trying to change them.
I have several pieces of evidence which suggest to me that the government is leaning on companies in ways which are not always apparent. (I can't share all of the evidence I have...I know this is unsatisfying. I'm not asking you to "trust me," just noting that this is what I have either heard from usually reliable sources or from direct participants.) I am reluctant to ascribe malice to any of the players in this drama, just differing goals (in the Great Game). --Tim Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

Tim May says:
I have several pieces of evidence which suggest to me that the government is leaning on companies in ways which are not always apparent. (I can't share all of the evidence I have...I know this is unsatisfying. I'm not asking you to "trust me," just noting that this is what I have either heard from usually reliable sources or from direct participants.)
I just got back from the AFCEA show. Lotus was there demonstrating Lotus Notes V4 DMS (Defense Messaging System). They've hacked it to be DMS complaint (I think that that means mostly that they support X.400 addressing, X.500 directory services and use a Fortezza card to encrypt and sign)... There are a lots of folks involved in the DMS game. Loral is the prime contractor. ESL, Lotus and Microsoft are providing UA's (front ends). Eric
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