jim bell writes:

My impression is that it is frequently the pacifist-types who get us into war, because they start the process out by tolerating actions by others that turn into more serious actions, etc. You know, the appeasers.

true, too true. unfortunately, the point is corrrect: the pacifist do tolerate actions that others would not thereby encouraging further aggression. after the pacifists have been attacked, they can be particularly violent --and incarcertated, they are defiant. Or, as I prefer to put it: there is nothing worse than a liberal whose ass has been bit. -- Hackers never stop hacking, they just get caught