Duncan Frissell writes:

Don't be upset with DD. She hasn't killed anybody. If we're right about our analysis of the new balance of power between the individual and the state, her views don't matter. If we're wrong, her views *still* don't matter.

Good analysis. However, DD (and a mess of other folks) have been fed some story from the very top. During the clipper non-debate there were several people, including (?) Denning who said to those not in the know "if you knew what I do, you would understand why we must have Clipper." This generates two possibilities. One, that the lot of them were fed a line of BS. And two, that there really *is* something to the official line. I have met DD and her husband maybe twice. Knowing the way married couples usually work, I rather imagine that he is in on the story as well (though it is possible he is not.) So, we have two rather bright (an understatement!) people who where taken in by a BS story?? Not very likely! So, what the hell *were* all these folks told about the need for Clipper? These stories never stay completely hidden forever. Thus I expect we will find out-- eventually. Is it something the readers of cyperpunks would agree is so badly needed that we must have "key forfiture? DD certainly has the ability to empathize with the way we feel. I think putting this question to DD would be profitable: If the cyperpunks list were to know what you know, would *they* support GAK? Keith Henson (who would post more often except for being up to his ears working on the old Xanadu code.)