Re: The Digital Society Group
From jalonz@openworld.com Thu Jan 8 02:19:34 1998 Received: from openworld.com (www.openworld.com [205.157.133.52]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id CAA24973 for <guy@panix.com>; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 02:19:34 -0500 (EST) From: jalonz@openworld.com Received: by openworld.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 85256586.00285987 ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 02:20:43 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: OPENWORLD.COM To: Information Security <guy@panix.com>, cyberpunks@toad.net
Cyberpunks? You really know how to score points!
Message-ID: <85256586.00280ED7.00@openworld.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 02:22:05 -0500 Subject: Re: The Digital Society Group Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: R
# SAN DIEGO DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. # # Computer Security - Provide computer security assistance in criminal # investigations. Tasks include data decryption, recovering erased data, # password retrieval, data line monitoring, and protected system entry.
Isn't that last item special?
---guy
And a possible reason for heading the other way.
guy,
tough noogies
deal with it...
Notice the words "criminal investigations"? God forbid talent could actually be used for a good cause. The incidents in question were actually quite serious (Chinese mafia money laundering via phony real estate deals) and not at all like the porno bbs confiscation crap you'd be thinking of.
:) jqz
Just curious what your reaction would be to that ambiguous statement. Having done DA support, I expect you are quite serious about heading the other way to give users security and anonymity. How do you justify both, since the "bad guys" would benefit? ---- It's the other stuff: that you flit around (people posting "Where are you Jalon Q. Zimmerman?"), that The Digital Society doesn't have its own domain, but is hosted by some other company called "OpenWorld", which has AOL contact addresses... Who is Mark Frazier, who owns OpenWorld, how long has it been in business, what is your relationship to them, what is your job description? Is OpenWorld another startup that is going to go <poof>? The OpenWorld pages read like any other company BS, and you've given yourself the lofty title "Director". Yeah, and we have Sir Timothy May, Dr. Dim Vulvis, etc. You're about 26, and full of hot air. ---guy You mean well. ;-)
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Having done DA support, I expect you are quite serious about heading the other way to give users security and anonymity. How do you justify both, since the "bad guys" would benefit?
Well just because the DA says someone is a BadGuy(TM) does not make it so. I for one would feel safer with the majority of BadGuys(TM) as neighbors than I would with Lawyers and DA's. :) - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNLVSzo9Co1n+aLhhAQHhlgP/ajGh6pYuVrvzWIhPXKNv02HZAigRHgk2 z0sXTMZt+K0LDOx6gC6RGtiYtjOcQeoFvnGiw10PSu/6R7L5FXE/EmTI8Mpatx8b vW5Ql89HBwZFOd3UwCQ/g4uFQTotUocXMyCLZszhkHAvPywDMU3nHDaJXXQgOIx8 z1gSN9T6G3g= =+3Pc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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