Re: Twenty Beautiful Women

At 20:54 7/27/96, Mike Duvos wrote:
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes:
Also, I would appreciate if someone specified what exactly the goal function is.
Me too.
For clarification, the problem is often stated in textbooks similar like this: You ask someone to write one number each on ten pieces of paper without you being able to see the numbers. The person may use any number from 1 to 10^99, but may not use a number twice. The person turns over the ten papers. You goal is to determine the paper with the highest number [rules apply as described in the original post] The general solution is to flip over 1/e papers and choose the paper that has a higher number on it than any of the 1/e papers turned over at first. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

Lucky Green writes:
For clarification, the problem is often stated in textbooks similar like this:
You ask someone to write one number each on ten pieces of paper without you being able to see the numbers. The person may use any number from 1 to 10^99, but may not use a number twice. The person turns over the ten papers.
You goal is to determine the paper with the highest number [rules apply as described in the original post]
The general solution is to flip over 1/e papers and choose the paper that has a higher number on it than any of the 1/e papers turned over at first.
Stated this way, I suppose strategy A is better than strategy B if after an arbitrarily large number of trials, N(A>B) > N(B>A). It is still unclear that such a notion translates smoothly into notions like "lowest gas price", where buying once at a station that is half the price beats buying a dozen times at a station that is only one cent less. It does translate perfectly well into the original problem of picking subjectively beautiful women, however, which is also non-parametric in a similar way. It would be nice to see a short proof that for the optimal solution, the threshold is the max of the first 1/e elements, and is not a function of how many steps have been taken. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ mpd@netcom.com $ via Finger. $

At 20:54 7/27/96, Mike Duvos wrote:
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes:
Also, I would appreciate if someone specified what exactly the goal function is.
Me too.
For clarification, the problem is often stated in textbooks similar like this:
You ask someone to write one number each on ten pieces of paper without you being able to see the numbers. The person may use any number from 1 to 10^99, but may not use a number twice. The person turns over the ten papers.
You goal is to determine the paper with the highest number [rules apply as described in the original post]
The general solution is to flip over 1/e papers and choose the paper that has a higher number on it than any of the 1/e papers turned over at first.
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