Who Owns the Words?
I realize that a thread similar to this one was debated on this list a month or so ago; but the problem has special urgency for me right now, and so I've made the posited situation much more specific. I'd be much obliged if anyone would post or email me their feelings, or references to legal precedents, on this issue. Many thanks. A dilemma: if you are writing a paper, and you want to quote someone's posted (say, to cypherpunks) remarks, what are the obligations? 1) None: by posting, people make their words public domain. 2) No legal obligations, but it would be polite to ask permission. 3) Whatever is posted is de facto copyright, and the person whose words you took could sue you for breach of copyright. Now let's shift to a MOO or IRC: You keep a log of a conversation. Would the same rules/customs apply if you wanted to include that log in a paper? Does it matter if the conversation was held in a private room or in a public place on the MOO? Does it matter whether the paper is written to fulfill a class assignment or is intended for publication in a for-profit magazine?
Arthur writes:
A dilemma: if you are writing a paper, and you want to quote someone's posted (say, to cypherpunks) remarks, what are the obligations? 1) None: by posting, people make their words public domain. 2) No legal obligations, but it would be polite to ask permission. 3) Whatever is posted is de facto copyright, and the person whose words you took could sue you for breach of copyright.
(3) is closest to the truth. You can still quote someone within Fair Use guidelines, however.
Now let's shift to a MOO or IRC: You keep a log of a conversation. Would the same rules/customs apply if you wanted to include that log in a paper?
Yes.
Does it matter if the conversation was held in a private room or in a public place on the MOO?
No.
Does it matter whether the paper is written to fulfill a class assignment or is intended for publication in a for-profit magazine?
Yes. The former poses no copyright problems. --Mike
Does it matter whether the paper is written to fulfill a class assignment or is intended for publication in a for-profit magazine?
Yes. The former poses no copyright problems.
And this brings up fair use, which seems to be mostly absent from Mike's answers. Mike, is not a short quotation considered fair use, in whatever medium, lacking any specific prohibition against it? Eric
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