It seems that Microsoft is hiring a "Program manager for Electronic Commerce". I just saw it in misc.jobs.offered:

Program Manager for Electronic Commerce You will lead the design and deployment of a new electronic commerce service at Microsoft. Your experience in cryptography, banking, electronic commerce, or communications will be put to use on this project. Requirements include at least three years of software development and project management experience and a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or a related field.

Oh Boy. <tssst>You cannot resist the Dark side of the Force, Luke...<tssst> Lots of "or"s and not many "and"s in that requirements punchlist though... Usual apologies to MSerfs, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com) "There is no difference between someone Shipwright Development Corporation who eats too little and sees Heaven and 44 Farquhar Street someone who drinks too much and sees Boston, MA 02331 USA snakes." -- Bertrand Russell (617) 323-7923