At 10:29 AM -0500 on 12/14/98, James Glave wrote:

Anyone participating in the strike today?

Evidently not... Cheers, Robert Hettinga ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

In <3.0.6.32.19981210163644.0088ec30@max-web.com>, on 12/10/98 at 04:36 PM, Kevlar <webmaster@max-web.com> said:

Not only will Maximum Web Design (www.max-web.com) not be operating on December 14, I have plenty of bandwith for a page with all the participants. Would be happy to maintain it too...

Please e-mail me. anti-wassenaar@max-web.com

Only serious requests -=WITH A URL=- will be accepted. Will post the address to the list asap.

The domain of openpgp.net will be down in protest on the 14th. Perhaps someone could design a common webpage that we all could use outlining why our sites are down. I also plan on bouncing all mail to the openpgp.net domain on that day. :) -- --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 5.0 at: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---------------------------------------------------------------

I agree that the primary damage, and resultant attention, is [necessarily] focused upon those whom [indirectly] had the least to do with "inflicting" this upon us (very accurately put), however, it is also the way most likely to generate the necessary awareness of the issues. Our biggest problem isn't that Wassenaar is forced upon us by bureaucrats: our problem is that hundreds of these types of things are forced upon us every year, and *nobody cares*. Our people have become so totally numbed and apathetic, that if they are not "bitten" directly, they could care less. I submit that this strike allows them to be bitten, albeit mildly, and that this *may* (and may very well *not*) raise their attention level a notch or two... Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org -- If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Steve Orrin wrote: :Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:10:34 -0500 :From: Steve Orrin <privsoft@ix.netcom.com> :To: Missouri FreeNet Administration <measl@mfn.org>, : Ken Williams <jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu> :Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, cypherpunks@algebra.com, : cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com :Subject: Re: Global Strike to protest Wassenaar : :I believe that a mass strike only hurts our employers, not the gov'ts :that are afflicting us with crap like Wassenaar. I propose that we :designate Monday "International Export Crypto Day". We should pick a :gov't agency or member (in a gov't other than our own) and email crypto :to him/her. Mass effort will demonstrate the absolute idiocy of :regulations like Wassenaar. maybe even a mass chain letter with RSA in 3 :lines of perl emailed all over the world and forward via typical chain :letter mechanisms. : :so :privsoft@ix.netcom.com : : :Missouri FreeNet Administration wrote: :> :> This is an excellent idea... I have just massmailed an announcement :> to our members: Missouri FreeNet will not be be operating on 14 December. :> Has anyone considered creating a (web?) list of persons and organizations :> who have committed to this strike? People are more likely to participate :> when they know they are no alone... :> :> Yours, :> J.A. Terranson :> sysadmin@mfn.org :> :> -- :> If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they :> should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: :> Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of :> unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in :> the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and :> elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire :> populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... :> This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States :> as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. :> :> The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, :> associates, or others. 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James Glave writes:

Anyone participating in the strike today? I'd like to possibly visit this with a news story...

I find it exceptionally unlikely that many people are participating in this. Whomever called the thing was not thinking very clearly. You need at least several weeks notice for such a thing to work, and the two or three days notice (at most) that was given was way too small. A strike of this nature might work, but only if someone with political sense were organizing it. Perry

Not striking..... but I am not working very hard today :-) At 11:01 AM 12/14/98 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote:

At 10:29 AM -0500 on 12/14/98, James Glave wrote:

...

Anyone participating in the strike today?

Evidently not...

Cheers, Robert Hettinga ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

-- William J. Hartwell (602)987-8436 Queencreek, Az. billh@ibag.com billh@interdem.com billh@hartwell.net

We just returned from this. Feel free to ask whatever you'd like. Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org -- If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, James Glave wrote: :Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:29:32 -0800 :From: James Glave <james@wired.com> :To: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com> :Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net, dcsb@ai.mit.edu :Subject: Anyone Striking? : :Anyone participating in the strike today? I'd like to possibly visit this :with a news story... : :jtg : :At 03:10 PM 12/10/98 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote: :>At 9:05 AM -0500 on 12/10/98, Ken Williams wrote: :> :>> "Strike to protest Wassenaar!" :>> :>> URL: http://www.zanshin.com/~bobg/ :>> :>> "This is a global call for computer professionals to strike on :>> Monday, 14 December, 1998 to protest the signing of the Wassenaar :>> Arrangement, an international treaty that imposes new restrictions :>> on cryptographic software technology. :> :>Now, *this* is interesting... :> :>Anyone actually contemplating doing this? : : :James Glave, News Editor, Wired News, http://www.wired.com +1 (415) 276-8430 :