At 03:05 AM 12/5/98 +0100, Anonymous wrote about some new product:
If the source code isn't available, don't trust it. That's a good general rule.
Where is the source for pgpfone?
Good question. That's why I wouldn't use it either. (I haven't had reason to use it, so 'll take Anonymous's word that source isn't available.) If people want to release software like this, they need a better argument for its security than "Trust us, it's secure." Considering that there is no net loss when developers of such a product release source code so that people can look it over and compile it themselves, I don't have any reason to trust such software. Aren't McAfee and PGP Inc. members of KRAP and promoting Big Brother Inside? I've lost track.
On 5 Dec 1998, HyperReal-Anon wrote:
If the source code isn't available, don't trust it. That's a good general rule. I dont believe he is saying source is not available because it is. In book form, currently getting scanned in europe somehwere where the Wersaanar(i dont care i misspelt it) was not signed
Where is the source for pgpfone?
Try pgpi.com, i believe if anyone has it they would.. maybe mit
Good question. That's why I wouldn't use it either. (I haven't had reason to use it, so 'll take Anonymous's word that source isn't available.)
See above, however, Scram disk has been around more, and it's source is available
If people want to release software like this, they need a better argument for its security than "Trust us, it's secure."
Agreed, thats why in PGP's case source is released.
Considering that there is no net loss when developers of such a product release source code so that people can look it over and compile it themselves, I don't have any reason to trust such software.
Actually in theory there is, people can steal code, use progs without paying etcetera. (the latter is available through "juarez" though)
Aren't McAfee and PGP Inc. members of KRAP and promoting Big Brother Inside? I've lost track.
McAfee does not exist, neither does PGP Inc, in a merger of those two and Network General, they formed Network Associates. Later NetAss purchased TIS, for their firewall mind you, and they were members of KRAP . so NAI was officially brough in. Max -- Max Inux <maxinux@openpgp.net> Hey Christy!!! New Keys per-request If crypto is outlawed only outlaws will have crypto
In <Pine.LNX.4.02.9812051155290.30678-100000@khercs.chipware.net>, on 12/05/98 at 11:59 AM, Max Inux <maxinux@openpgp.net> said:
Where is the source for pgpfone?
Try pgpi.com, i believe if anyone has it they would.. maybe mit
AFAIK the source for PGPfone has never been released. I had wanted to do a port to the OS/2 platform but was never able to get the source code for it. Nautilas has source available but I do not know what platforms it has been ported to. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 5.0 at: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---------------------------------------------------------------
William H. Geiger III wrote:
In <Pine.LNX.4.02.9812051155290.30678-100000@khercs.chipware.net>, on 12/05/98 at 11:59 AM, Max Inux <maxinux@openpgp.net> said:
Where is the source for pgpfone?
Try pgpi.com, i believe if anyone has it they would.. maybe mit
AFAIK the source for PGPfone has never been released. I had wanted to do a port to the OS/2 platform but was never able to get the source code for it.
Nautilas has source available but I do not know what platforms it has been ported to.
Speak Freely can be found at these two sites: http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/unix/ http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/windows/ It is free, has source code, and will work with pgp 2.6x. -Doug www.TheServerFarm.net
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