rsaltz:

Several times I have heard NSA staffers talk about securing our secrets vs. reading theirs. It seems that right now the first side is "winning."

This "Chinese Wall" exists in many other branches of the IC. I saw this in a specific physical security area; Red Team tried to (say) build a wall; Black Team worked on new ways through it. We (another agency with an interest in walls) could & did get advice on wall-building from Red; but the Blacks would not talk to either the Red Team nor us. Trying to predict the posture of the Fort _in general_ from the PhilZ case strikes me as a less accurate than throwing darts blindfolded... from a rollercoaster. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433