[I've changed the name of this thread. Somehow the title "Re: [NOISE]Re: ECPA (Was: University logging mail to anon.penet.fi)" did not quite cut it. I really wish folks would take the effort to change thread names when appropriate.] At 11:24 PM 9/8/95, Jim Ray wrote:

They were in the minority in my party, even *before* the OK City mass-murder proved why we have such a pledge (to distance ourselves from those who would initiate violence).

As a point of reference, I usually vote Libertarian, even though it's pointless. And I'm even registered "Libertarian Party," which matters even less. (I've also changed my registration to Democratic or Republican when I wanted to influence in some tiny way their primaries...as when I switched to Democrat so as to vote for Jerry Brown, mainly because of his flat tax proposal.) But I've never signed the LP "pledge" as I dislike such blanket pledges. And I dislike the notion of pledges per se. So, I'm registered to the Libertarian Party, and usually vote Libertarian. But I am not allowed to be a dues-paying member and get their worthless newsletters, which suits me fine. (Anybody prepared to bomb a government building is not going to balk at signing such a pledge, so it does little good. Personally, I think the "pledge" is profoundly anti-libertarian, and smacks of McCarthyism.) Your mileage may vary. And I place a lot more faith in crypto activism having an effect than in the LP having an effect. Crypto and crypto anarchist ideas are already creeping into the LP belief system, as reflected in articles in "Reason" and "Liberty." And David Friedman (author of "The Machinery of Freedom," and son of Milton) gave a talk recently in L.A. entitled "Crypto Anarchy and the State." --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."