On 9/19/98 11:24 PM, Anonymous (nobody@remailer.ch) passed this wisdom:

In reply to my suggestion that lieing under oath isn't a very good reason for impeachment,

Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com> wrote:

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Of course it's different if you preface your lie with "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".

The oath is voluntary and therefore if broken no claim for duress, only intentional misdirection, can explain such actions.

echoed by nobody@remailer.ch who wrote:

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...If some public figure ... goes under oath and then lies, ... he's trying to throw a wrench in the justice system. It wouldn't be as bad if somebody like Jim or I lied under oath, but this guy is the chief executive of the United States. He's basically Top Cop, and his administration doesn't hesitate to press charges against people who commit all sorts of victimless crimes.

I agree it's bad. I agree it undermines the justice system a little bit. But, ... impeachment?

You're not charging him with murder (eg WACO), attacking the 1st ammendment (CDA), the 4th (SSN on driver's licences), the 5th (GAK). You're going after Al Capone for tax evasion. You want to get him because he's a Bad Person not because of the particular crime. This is ironic, because his crimes against our basic rights were committed while pursuing Bad People, but it is also hypocritical.

They couldn't get Capone any other way but on Income Tax Evasion ... we all know how much more guilty of how many more heinous crimes he was ... but we took him the only way we could ... Clinton is no different ... it would be grand and so fitting if we could impeach himt for having committed aggravated assault upon the Bill of Rights, but if we have to get him because he can't keep his pecker zipped up then so be it ... as with case of Al Capone, this country will also be richer without William Jefferson (Thomas must be rolling in his grave!) Klinton! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "When hell freezes over, grab your ice skates." -- Mark Johnson