On 4/21/98 7:33 PM, Mark Armbrust (marka@ff.com) passed this wisdom:

At 03:08 PM 4/21/98 -0700, you wrote:

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This is a really difficult issue. Even the most diehard cypherpunk cannot doubt the usefulness of a cellular position reporting capability in an emergency situation, when the user *wants* the cops or whoever to know where he is. The big problem is how to keep it from being used (or abused) for "law enforcement" purposes without the consent of the user.

Don't archive the information -- supply it as part of the CNID. If the user has disabled caller-ID don't supply the location info either.

This depends on the integrity of the service provider and whether they have the balls to stand up against CALEA.

It seems to me that security dependent upon someone else's ethics/guts or lack of them is no security at all. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "I tried sniffing Coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose."