Re: Wine Politics Again! (fwd)
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Tim May wrote:
At 4:09 AM -0800 5/9/97, Robert Hettinga wrote:
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Hello friends of the Virtual Vineyards and family wineries. Remember the felony direct shipping law in Georgia I wrote about a few weeks ago? Well, Governor Miller signed it, unfortunately. Ship a bottle of wine, go to jail. Amazing.
It should go without saying that this is a classic case of a dumb bill, being passed to serve the special interest of liquor store owners.
Chiles and his co-conspirators should be shot for high crimes against the Constitution. After Clinton, Freeh, Kerrey, and the other traitors.
It should go without saying that the above is nonsense. Sorry Tim. To take only the least obvious point: the Constitution states in Amendment 21 -- ratified in 1933 and beyond any argument part of our Constitution -- that states get to make all the rules about the transportation or importation of liquor into their jurisdiction. You may not like this rule, but it is beyond any serious argument our law. A state that uses this power in a stupid way is not acting in any sense "unconstitutionally". Supporters of this bill can be called "dumb" or "bought and paid for" or other unkind things. But I fail to see how exercising a constitutional right can be a crime against the constitution. [... ugly stuff about "soft targets"] It ill behooves participants in a democracy to either advocate or even tolerate or even cluck sympathetically at mass murder for political ends. This way lies Bosnia. A. Michael Froomkin | +1 (305) 284-4285; +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) Associate Professor of Law | "Cyberspace" is not a place. U. Miami School of Law | [No email to foil spam] P.O. Box 248087 | http://www.law.miami.edu/~froomkin Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA | It's warm here.
It should go without saying that this is a classic case of a dumb bill, being passed to serve the special interest of liquor store owners.
This bill is probably a good idea; less tourists getting shot by hoodlums wasted on mail-order designer hooch ...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 04:07 AM 5/11/97 +0200, A. Michael Froomkin wrote:
It ill behooves participants in a democracy to either advocate or even tolerate or even cluck sympathetically at mass murder for political ends. This way lies Bosnia.
I suggest making them look like fools. It allows public opinion to turn against the fascists without them having murder or mayhem as a scapegoat. There is nothing the greyfaces hate more than laughter. They have forgotten that "The imposition of order equals the escalation of disorder". Now is the time to hack the media. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQEVAwUBM3VYo+QCP3v30CeZAQEM5wf+OL0EdFL72+AOv4Wc12woXmTWbQYDFRVe IzmRTngGpM7+10oLrOFoX4NgOtkfbsYqdhUTJyQo9rzEHVNed8sgXFrZO7M6+sgS DgV4DCtgd0x8957pe0TXdJTko16yZ1fXWLFYjhUNKe8cT9y/0o62LNthjEcQ1qJV dR3gxyEKK/U1xz76cOXDmCjNuoWSoFXFy8WPtShObp2Re/PcEldDNYUTh1/QrVR/ yi+wwvvd4OgjCYdHiM525vu+1AK4U/Xg7QblOkEcE1BUo07hPY1fCHdKhR9uAonb VrJSRoCISh2LSfj38jhJMZEQzsqMsqha8o2CRyaav1ltsiVa2vCyEg== =Tef9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- | "Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!" | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano@teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan@ctrl-alt-del.com|
Alan Olsen <alan@ctrl-alt-del.com> writes:
At 04:07 AM 5/11/97 +0200, A. Michael Froomkin wrote:
It ill behooves participants in a democracy to either advocate or even tolerate or even cluck sympathetically at mass murder for political ends. This way lies Bosnia.
I suggest making them look like fools. It allows public opinion to turn against the fascists without them having murder or mayhem as a scapegoat. There is nothing the greyfaces hate more than laughter.
Now is the time to hack the media.
Ideas? Maybe mirror some information which they won't like and laugh at them when they fail to take it down? Hack their web pages? Socially engineer a change to their NIC info (as Susan Thunder did to `takedown.com' which was about `taking down' Mitnick. She talked internic into changing it to takendown.com. Heh heh.) Hack the DNS server entries for their web pages, so it'll take them to recover. Eavesdrop on their cell phones and post the audio files? Post their credit ratings, bank balances, all the personal info a PI or hacker can get? Set them up and tape what they think is a corrupt deal with a kick back for them going down? Plant a bug on a politician leave it going for a few weeks and post the findings? May be we can start a pool to reward the hacker who gets dirt on them which shows them for what they are, if the poetic justice of it isn't enough incentive. Hire a good PI. Put all this info on the web and laugh when they fail to take it down. (Hint: eternity). Adam -- Have *you* exported RSA today? --> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`
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