On 10/25/97 7:30 AM, harka@nycmetro.com (harka@nycmetro.com) passed this wisdom:

Your repeating of government-propaganda about the "abuse of the welfare-system" etc. doesn't really cut it as an argument in a discussion about the realism of having total financial independence and the freedom of choices, that comes with it.

no he is not .... he is repeating what we all see in the grocery store checkout lines and in the gutters with regularity ... even here in Vermonte where self-sufficiency is a way of life we see third, fourth, and fifth generation welfare families. I literally just came from picking up groceries in a Grand Union in Essex Junction (biiiggg suburb of Burlington, also home of a big IBM plant) the lady in fromt of me was playing the food stamp game ... there was more junk in that basket along with the beer. I teach 'at risk' students in a high school near here and I am dealing with kids who have some potential to do something with themselves and have no inclination to try. I have a kid who is definitely got the brains to go to college to do something with himself whose main aim in life right now was figuring out how to forge the slip for free school lunches for him and his sister so he can pocket the lunch money from his parents ... yeah, I know, send him into politics! Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "...Those of you who turned your swords into plowshares will soon find yourselves under the yokes of those of us who kept our swords..." -- author unknown