At this year's DefCon (last weekend), there were two speakers from the recently created FBI San Francisco Computer Crime division. During a question/answer session, the question came up regarding their division's view on crypto as compared to the FBI's official view. They, of course, declined to answer on the grounds that they were instructed not to talk about it, and proceeded to explain how they just enforce the law, not create it (deftly ignoring the point made about Freeh's involvement in making laws). The question was rephrased: "How do you personally feel about exporting strong crypto", and again they refused to answer on the grounds that they were there as spokesmen for the FBI, but people could talk to them later and ask any questions they liked, and "the answers may surprise you". Evidence that maybe some goons really do have a clue, but are still too afraid to do anything about it... //cerridwyn//