.02 cents from one of the 700: From: Jim choate If you look at this rationaly all the discussion about pedophilia, eff, nsa policy, etc. is really not directly related to crypto and coding. ............................................ . The NSA thinks so. . You said: coding is not done in a vaccuum. . Eric Hughes did say he prefers the list to be cultured (inclusive of related topics). . I must sympathize with those who don't have filtering agents and must pay for extensive messages in their mailboxes. Blanc