At 12:58 PM 12/18/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:

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At 12:04 PM -0700 12/18/97, David Honig wrote:

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At 06:33 PM 12/17/97 -0800, Bruce Balden wrote:

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Those guys just never learn that not only is the barn door open, but

Exportability rules are based up the notion that the USA has the best technology (perhaps true) and that non-Americans, such as the notorious Chinese, are too far behind. Whereas the truth is that many countries in the have the necessary technology and have possessed it for a long time. There is absolutely no evidence that the US gov't crypto export rules are impeding drug cartels in the least. So there is a peverse mix cognitive dissonance, xenophobia ("what do those chinks know anyway?!!), and sycophantism (telling the President what he wants to hear). Somebody please tell me how this idiocy can persist. -----Original Message----- that

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contents were never theirs to begin with.

They blew their chance to regulate *computers* as military tech. Computers, after all, were developed by the military for ballistic, bombs, and codes.

I can't follow your logic here. Several points:

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The develoment of computers can be traced along numerous threads. One thread (from say the 40's to 50's) traces the encouragement of the codebreaking, ballistics, h-bomb fluid dynamics, and missile control community.

By the 50's the computer was done, and improvements were just making better implementations.

It is admittedly oversimplifying to follow only one thread (e.g., only mathematical or engineering development), but in the early days (way before intel) computers were built for the uses I describe.

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