I notice several posts to the list discussing the incident when a message was sent to the list and was only at toad.com for 3 seconds before being forwarded. This incident, as the other posts observed, seems to suggest some kind of keyword filtering based on content or poster identity is in place. Sandy, can you explain this incident along with the fact that the post Dimitri sent about stronghold was sent to neither of the "filtered" lists. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul@crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul@cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"