At 1:40 PM 9/9/94, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

Actually, as I recall these have mostly been marketing studies. For whatever reason (perhaps the same "oppressed group syndrome" that tends to make several other minorities work harder) gay men tend to be higher up on the income scale. No, I can't find a reference in a second -- but if you insist I'll dig one up. Those knowing my opinions

If you happen across one, I'd like to see it, but don't go out of your way

closely enough will know that I loathe fundamentalist christians and that I'm quite rabbid in attacking discrimination against homosexuals.

I have at least a rough sketch of your political views in mind, Perry. I wasn't trying to attack you - I was trying to correct something that is a very common misconception. Just happens to be on a rather charged topic. Assuming it was a marketing survey, this makes a lot more sense. They are going to look places where people selling things have a good chance to sell, which tends not to be the blue collar sections (where due to violence and educational differences, people are also much more likely to be closeted, and results are skewed anyway) Also note that income brackets are, to my experience, extremely variant among gays depending on location, race and (here's the biggest, it seems) sex.

Let me note that Jews and Asians are not protected groups under Title 10 -- there are no affirmative action laws for us, and there *is* discrimination against them -- sometimes even very violent discrimination. Somehow, however, they have managed to do just fine in society.

Although I believe this is an apples/oranges situation on a number of grounds (no comments on discussing fruit, please :), I see your point. I still strongly disagree that such legislation isn't nessessary, but that's neither here nor there...

Perry

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