(Fwd) FWD: Texas Driver's License database on the web

Just in case it's not clear from the headers, this is being posted by Peter Trei. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Some forwards removed. From: Jim Thompson <jim@hosaka.SmallWorks.COM> I got a '503 Service Unavailable this server has been placed offline by the operator. Please try again later.' response the first two times I tried. But then... Oh look. A record of which elections in which you've voted. If you don't think this is the likely future, you're dead wrong. Jim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: Brent Heustess <heustess@mail.utexas.edu> This is a really spooky web site <http://www.publiclink.com>. You can search 17 million Texas drivers by name, driver's license number or license plate number. When you find a person, you can then find everyone at that address with a license. You can even find everyone with the same 9-digit zip code. The record does not have a GIF of the photo, but it has everything else on the license. Did Psychos-R-Us request this site? "Could you create a database so I don't miss anyone when I go on a killing spree on the 900 block of Rosewood?" "28 my ass. I just checked the web and it says you were born 1965. Not ready to admit to be post-30? I'm not buying the 'I weigh 110' either. I read 118 plain as day." "I can't believe it. That asshole just cut me off. Well, Mr. ZBW-446, I guess a little midnight visit is in order to 1918 Grover St. Prepare to be stalked." "Johnny, I looked up your record last night and I couldn't believe my eyes. You're livin' in sin with that Sally Jenkins slut. How could you do this to your Dad & me? You move out now or we're gonna cut off your college money!" Public Link says this is public information, but where are the good old days when you had to have a friend down at the Dept of Public Safety who would look plate numbers up for you? If it was good enough for Rockford, it's good enough for me. Suprress your phone number & address from the phone book, but then it shows up in a searchable database on the web. Lot of good that did you. Now all those 7th Day Adventists know excatly where you live. Privacy, schmivacy. Ta, Brent =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Public Link Corporation Public Databases on the Internet 5930-E Royal Lane Ste 173, Dallas, TX 75230 (214) 890-6817 Welcome to Public Link Corp., the Information Source of the Internet. We are here to provide public access to public information and public databases. The company uses data obtained from public sources currently available through the Freedom of Information Act and Open Records Laws. We believe it is the citizen's right to have this information available for their use. We expect to grow our database offerings to you over the next several months. Many times you have needed the type of information we provide and have had to use varous methods to obtain the information. Some of these methods you would prefer not to have to use again. Not any more! Just sit back and let us do the work for you. If you have a special suggestions or request, please let us know. Come and join us as we enter the information age! - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TexasDriverLink State of Texas Licensed Drivers. Over 17,000,000 Texas Drivers License Information. Updated weekly. This database contains the information contained on a person's drivers license. Data included are Name, Address, Weight, Birth Date, Sex, Expiration Date, Status (Active or Suspended), Class of License, and Restrictions. This database does not contain information on a person's traffic tickets, DWIs, or Insurance information. Search either by name or if you know the drivers license number, search by number. TexasTagLink State of Texas License Plates. Over 16,000,000 license plates with accompaning information. Updated weekly. This database contains the information about the owner of a vehicle. This database does not contain insurance information. Search currently only available by plate number. TexasDallasVoterLink Registered voter role for Dallas County Texas. This database also contains voting history for each of the one million registered voters. This database is updated quarterly. TexasArrestLink EvictionLink CivilCourtLink PropertyOwnerLink MarriageRecordLink - -- Jim Thompson / Smallworks, Inc. / jim@smallworks.com 512 338 0619 phone / 512 338 0625 fax HTML: The 3270 of the 90s

On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Peter Trei wrote:
Did Psychos-R-Us request this site? "Could you create a database so I don't miss anyone when I go on a killing spree on the 900 block of Rosewood?"
The (very very very very very) minor redeeming factor is that you have to be someone with knowledge of someone's valid Texas driver's license. So it's not *FULLY* available on the net. Though, someone will probably leak a userid in the next week or so, and then anyone can use it... Why do people do these things? (I wonder if publiclink is actually physically located in Texas..) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Anderson - <Pug Majere> "Who knows, even the horse might sing" Wayne State University - CULMA "May you live in interesting times.." randerso@ece.eng.wayne.edu Ohio = VYI of the USA PGP Fingerprint - 7E 8E C6 54 96 AC D9 57 E4 F8 AE 9C 10 7E 78 C9 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Ryan Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Peter Trei wrote:
Did Psychos-R-Us request this site? "Could you create a database so I don't miss anyone when I go on a killing spree on the 900 block of Rosewood?"
The (very very very very very) minor redeeming factor is that you have to be someone with knowledge of someone's valid Texas driver's license. So it's not *FULLY* available on the net. Though, someone will probably leak a userid in the next week or so, and then anyone can use it...
Why do people do these things? (I wonder if publiclink is actually physically located in Texas..)
Why do people do what things? Do you mean: Why does the state of Texas collect this information and sell it to anyone who is willing to write a check? or: Why would anyone take this publically availiable information and make it available to the public? When my libertairan streak is in full flood, I think that since this information was collected by government employees and paid for by tax dollars, that it should be availiable to anyone who wants it, for (minimal or) no cost. Of course, the better solution is to not collect the information at all. (Not selling it just means that people can buy it on the black market, or in the case of TRW, etc; buy legislatures) -- Marshall Marshall Clow Aladdin Systems <mailto:mclow@mailhost2.csusm.edu> "In Washington DC, officials from the White House, federal agencies and Congress say regulations may be necessary to promote a free-market system." -- CommunicationsWeek International April 21, 1997

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 05:01 PM 6/11/97 -0400, Ryan Anderson wrote:
The (very very very very very) minor redeeming factor is that you have to be someone with knowledge of someone's valid Texas driver's license. So it's not *FULLY* available on the net. Though, someone will probably leak a userid in the next week or so, and then anyone can use it...
I am not in Texas, and I have used the system. I took email name I suspected were in Texas and started looking up voter and DMV info. Some I couldn't find, but I hit several people I have never met. For some, I did a whois on their domain name and used that city to narrow the search. I understand the site is now password protected, but they offer accounts to others who are not in Texas. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM58850GpGhRXg5NZAQF2qAH8C0GjhAwZ5dplRV8ITNrQSkV3VH6oTQHA 1kSLUvk8/L3M5yVSfIq3SGsAZBogY6MgcuV8P93h3Z/uDI+SS0gaGg== =OEV6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: Brent Heustess <heustess@mail.utexas.edu>
This is a really spooky web site <http://www.publiclink.com>. You can search 17 million Texas drivers by name, driver's license number or license plate number. When you find a person, you can then find everyone at that address with a license. You can even find everyone with the same 9-digit zip code. The record does not have a GIF of the photo, but it has everything else on the license.
Those who tell the government the actual address where they sleep at night have no expectation of privacy. Most governments don't care if you substitute an accomodation address. If you find a government that does care, shop around until you find another that doesn't. I've been turned down exactly once in my career when I attempted to use an accomodation address for DMV purposes. I went elsewhere. DCF

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <3.0.1.32.19970616231344.006959d8@panix.com>, on 06/16/97 at 11:13 PM, Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> said:
Those who tell the government the actual address where they sleep at night have no expectation of privacy. Most governments don't care if you substitute an accomodation address. If you find a government that does care, shop around until you find another that doesn't. I've been turned down exactly once in my career when I attempted to use an accomodation address for DMV purposes. I went elsewhere.
I have allways prefered to have any government registrations done in a state that I *do not* reside in. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM/brIY9Co1n+aLhhAQFjmwP/S3G3b5chD5aHOqRKSIbujz6vO+Wd53mC PW9nHu0jXn5sL0J7VLvG4/jyeYP8WMHVTBXaq3vACuNk+nqmUfv86X3f7tp9Ycf/ 1JsvVOfaV8bnLMYNQZoJjXtskcIlxKVTQ0upwODgr1HCXTyJHVlkatQLcDagoIfe OIh6i6/VJd8= =gSv3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Duncan Frissell
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Marshall Clow
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Peter Trei
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Robert A. Costner
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Ryan Anderson
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William H. Geiger III