-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In scroll <41jnqn$qgm@nntp.crl.com>, Nobody wrote:

sameer@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Sameer Parekh) wrote:

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Community COnneXion will not reveal the identity of non-anonymous account holders without a court order or explicit permission from the account holder. Sameer - You caved WAAAY too easily - I will suggest that we ban ALL inclusion of your reamiler in any chain, due to the fact tha your c2.org CAN NOT be trusted to resist pressure. See ya on the c-punks area.

Now, Nobody, that is chickenshit if anything, and I "suggest" you know it. The actions taken by Community ConneXion in no way prove that it would be any less trustable in this matter than any other remailer in the world. In fact, certain coolheadedness to all parties present is, in my opinion, one of the main requirements of respectable remailer. In fact, had c2.org been pinned down for the copyright infrigment with no ability to point the real infriger, CoS could well have stood a change to get hold of any possible remailer logs. Just like in the anon.penet.fi case, where Helsingius gave out the entries identifying the account in question instead of holding them back at the risk of getting all the entries confiscated. It's called picking the lesser evil. In fact, the only effect you stand to gain from accusing people of such acts is perhaps making them that much more inclined to really co-operate with your enemy next time they ask for it. Furthermore, altough Sameer could've been pretty sure of even monetary support from the 'net community in his battles against CoS, I personally think such would only be waste of resources. The copyrights of OT materials will be found out in Erlich's case, posting them publicly in Lerma's case and the common provider status of ISP's will be tested in Netcom's case. In my opinion, we stand nothing to gain, only lose, from increasing the number of cases further. Not to even mention that the Fishman documents have now been temporarily sealed, which further clouds the issue. Finally, I hope you do know that the reason of actually using remailer-chains is the admittance that some of them might be compromised. The idea behind remailer chains is that each and every one of the mailers in the chain needs first to be identified and then compromised to successfully find out the real poster. "Banning" it out of the remailer chains, even if possible, would serve no purpose. Posting the facts and letting people make their own decisions based on those could, perhaps, be warranted. Regards, Donwulff Intergalactic terrorist and arms dealer, squire for Knights of Xenu. Operation Entheta National Command, captain Donwulff of Discordia. Tell your people. alt.religion.scientology Let The World Know! -><- Hail Eris! All hail Discordia! -><- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMEBkayrmAC3+VL2ZAQEw3AQAvq5NKAExecLJ1/GKpSfO10w8Y/H/1cpi AJAGc2JikWfPVvhxaw1b1Ib3TiX4IyvMHXu2YIldDUcWnCYq/Yx2iAnbeo08r7Uq y7sgDjghyuMBX9EXtaVN4uiRSc+ESDM/oTQGc6atFbtqrSmoKlyO/jHWp/A76pL/ SIYVGLU+kV8= =DQ3K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----