Re: (eternity) Re: Eternity Services
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Ryan Lackey wrote: [quoting Tim]
(* I say "working" in the sense that the concept was very easy to demonstrate just by using PGP and remailers. Not much more than what I demonstrated in 1993 would be needed to deploy a real system. Except for one thing: true digital cash. Not the bullshit one-way-traceable stuff
FUCK! WHO REGISTER ME TO THIS MAILING LIST? CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM IT? I WILL MAD! OH GOD! TOO MANY EMAIL! At 08:18 AM 1/12/98 +0100, Lucky Green wrote: that
Chaum and others are now pushing, but the original, online-cleared or escrow-cleared form, a la the work of Goldberg et. al. For some of these applications, below, simple token- or coupon-based schemes might work adequately.)
There are currently-under-development systems which will meet the digital cash requirement, from people who I consider highly respectable and competent.
And the demand for such ecash systems is real. I personally carried a $10 million offer for a non-exclusive license for the blind signature patent to David Chaum. He declined the offer. "The patent is not for license". DigiCash's CEO since March of last year, Mike Nash, also told me that DigiCash was not considering licensing the patent. I knew that day that it was time to quit. Not surprisingly, nobody heard from DigiCash since.
-- Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> PGP v5 encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"
At 6:49 PM -0800 1/22/98, redgod@usa.net wrote:
FUCK! WHO REGISTER ME TO THIS MAILING LIST? CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM IT? I WILL MAD! OH GOD! TOO MANY EMAIL!
Ah, yet another articulate subscriber of one of these lists. (This dweeb doesn't even say whether he's getting Cypherpunks or Eternity list traffic, as both are on the cc: list.) You are hereby condemned to receive all the rants of Nobuki-san, Detweiler tentacles, and Dim Vulis artwork. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
Tim May <tcmay@got.net> writes:
You are hereby condemned to receive all the rants of Nobuki-san, Detweiler tentacles, and Dim Vulis artwork.
Let's have a separate mailing list. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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