RE: Canada Imprisons People For Human Rights Activity
... you support imprisoning and deporting people based purely on their
qut@netcom.com (Skip) political ideas, ... Re: Ernst Zndel and his years of imprisonment by a court for merely expressing his racist ideas, racist political ideas being strictly illegal in Canada... Actually, he was charged with inciting hatred against a recognizable group but was eventually freed on appeal. I think the problem was that the prosecution could not find anyone who listened to Zundel and didn't already hate the same groups. Hence, no incitement. He is currently fighting to get his Canadian citizenship, (he is a German citizen) while many other people are fighting to prevent this. Zundel believes that returning to Germany would result in imprisonment. It's nice to know that the people we imprison for their views are still willing to go to court to become a Canadian citizen. James Nota: Quebec recently held a referendum on seperation from Canada. Just talk about secession of a state in the U.S., and you'll quickly see which country makes political ideas illegal.
jbugden@smtplink.alis.ca wrote:
Nota: Quebec recently held a referendum on seperation from Canada.=20 Just talk about secession of a state in the U.S., and you'll quickly see wh= ich country makes political ideas illegal.
OK, so what would happen if I organized a party with the proclaimed goal of secession of Oklahoma from the United States? - Igor.
OK, so what would happen if I organized a party with the proclaimed goal of secession of Oklahoma from the United States?
...already bought the T-shirt.; Check out the Southern League, POB 40910, Tuscaloosa Alabama 35404 205-553-0155 They have stgate chapters in every southern state are working towards devolution. I don't think it will happen in my lifetime. On the other hand.... the bigger they are, the faster they fall.
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes:
jbugden@smtplink.alis.ca wrote:
Nota: Quebec recently held a referendum on seperation from Canada.=20 ^ Just talk about secession of a state in the U.S., and you'll quickly see wh ich country makes political ideas illegal.
OK, so what would happen if I organized a party with the proclaimed goal of secession of Oklahoma from the United States?
You'd make The Right Reverend Colin James III very happy because you'd be deported back to Sovok. :-) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 jbugden@smtplink.alis.ca wrote:
Nota: Quebec recently held a referendum on seperation from Canada. Just talk about secession of a state in the U.S., and you'll quickly see which country makes political ideas illegal.
You mean stuff like this? :-) http://www.softdisk.com/comp/dan/politics/parties.html#Seccession The one about the Provisional Government of the Republic of Texas is a hoot. The reason you don't hear people wanting to secede from the US is, well, they don't want to, not because we can't take it. That little incident in the 1860's was really an international conflict, not a secession. Some other entertaining sites that would probably be frowned upon in lily-livered Canada include: http://www.nationalist.org/platform.html#Social http://www.natvan.com/WHAT/na2.html#aryan Back to Zundel, the full text of the Supreme Court decision is at http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/supreme-court/ The reasoning is rather different than what you said, but maybe you were thinking of the earlier postal decision, which I haven't read. The latest attempt at a criminal charge never even got to trial. I also just received a copy of Judge Heald's ruling on the citizenship matter. Unfortunately, it's a second-generation Xerox that my OCR software just looks at and laughs. I'll key it in manually if I ever find the time. Essentially, it says the government either has to give him citizenship or change the law, because the only body that is legally empowered to advise the Crown whether he's a threat to Canadian society or "of bad charater" has already concluded that he is, so it can't be objective. Very strange reasoning, but I agree with the outcome. -rich
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Rich Graves