"Proprietary" internetworking protocols (was RE: The future will be easy to use )
Perry E. Metzger writes:
attila writes:
figures. I'll give ipsec and ipsec-dev a look. However, SUN does have the power to make something happen on the high-power workstations, and the fact they are making a portable package available in source code is farther than anyone else has gone.
Unfortunately, an internetworking protocol used by only one vendor gets nowhere.
much other discussion ommitted... I hate to quibble, but past experience may demonstrate this to be inaccurate. In particular, and most relevantly: NFS (Sun) SSL (Netscape) Another internetworking protocol (IPX) gave Novell a good run. The point is that a working implementation goes a long way for people who want/need _something_ that works, NOW. Consider the relative merits/success of S-HTTP and SSL. ObCrypto: the POTP people are the Boston Internet Expo today and tomorrow, and they have their "technical guy" who is supposed to be answering questions. The nontechnical guy said they generate random numbers using randomness taken from the text of the messages being encrypted. -pl _Electronic Commerce_ (Charles River Media, available now) pete@loshin.com
Both Netscape and Sun had a product that had a large number of seats. From what I have seen the POTP have diddly squat in the way of seats. Looking at the market today it is clear that there are fewer oppotunities to do that type of roll out. Netscape and Sun were running just ahead of a market. Today I don't see how many people will want to abandon PGP for a product that is indistinguishable from smoke 'n mirrors. Phill
I have read that Visa intends to begin a digital cash system, using both discardable and recharable cards that would implement secure cash transations. The system is now in use in Australia, and there are plans for use during the Olympic Games at Atlanta and a pilot project in Thailand. Does anybody know if this is truly "cash"? Is is tracable, and what encryption does it use? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patiwat Panurach Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. eMAIL: pati@ipied.tu.ac.th Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. m/18 junior Fac of Economics -Johann W.Von Goethe
I think the Visa stuff is basically stored value and rechargeable smart cards, not really ecash type money. Supposedly you'll be able to get a card with $10 or $20 on it and all the vending machines and phones around the Olympic venues will be set up to take the cards. So to answer your questions, no it's not really digital cash (like ecash); and yes I think it's probably traceable to some extent (unless you buy stored value cards w/paper cash). First Union, the bank selling the cards, has a page on them: http://www.firstunion.com/visacash/ Low on the technical info, but they give an address to mail questions to. --- Fletch __`'/| fletch@ain.bls.com "Lisa, in this house we obey the \ o.O' ______ 404 713-0414(w) Laws of Thermodynamics!" H. Simpson =(___)= -| Ack. | 404 315-7264(h) PGP Print: 8D8736A8FC59B2E6 8E675B341E378E43 U ------
participants (4)
-
hallam＠w3.org -
Mike Fletcher -
Patiwat Panurach -
Pete Loshin