-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It appears to me that Detweiler is not receiving the list; for example, he apparently didn't see the posting giving the names of officials at his university until it was forwarded to him several days later. I would favor adding a filter preventing Detweiler's messages from appearing on the list. I know that this is a big step to take but his messages have become so deranged that they have, IMO, no redeeming value. Whatever validity his original points may have had (and I do think there was a kernel of a valid point there), his mental state is such that his postings are now worthless. I know that I can easily filter his messages myself, but it still wastes list bandwidth and, worse, distracts people's attention from other, more worthwhile, posts. By lowering the quality of the list as a whole Detweiler discourages people from subscribing. New subscribers may take his rants as typical of what we discuss here. We are all harmed by having people who could make a contribution leave the list, or be distracted by Detweiler's messages and the responses to him. Unless others strongly disagree, I urge Eric to install software to eliminate Detweiler's postings. I believe the evidence is strong enough that the anon.penet.fi account nicknamed "S.Boxx" is actually a Detweiler pseudonym that it should be filtered as well. If other pseudonyms appear I suppose we would have to consider them on a case by case basis. In order to conserve list bandwidth, let's try to avoid "me, too" postings. If you disagree, it's worth discussing, IMO, but if you agree I'd suggest that messages be sent directly to Eric at cypherpunks-request@toad.com or hughes@ah.com. Hal Finney hfinney@shell.portal.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLPaZZagTA69YIUw3AQHSnAP8Cbo7o6622IpA7HwY8lQAm6h66YE9wCrc rkCZK2F6KnVRvuTxXbotvdx/RxQZPtIwZa6SmU8H1H/d/SAQSB74bavDsrzJRl5I V5BNPmVL+zFSPZWgfXOQ8Apb3KTrtWmTyhXIgRbhJle3kyO5YJU2km50j98ZoN5d 2cPpzM0wHxA= =hgGz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----