Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies
At 09:47 PM 7/23/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
What I meant was, Ames and that FBI dude Hansen (sp?), at least the KGB got Ames' wife as part of the package, whereas the FBI CI dude let his wife off as part of the deal he cut. Nice xian that he was, he was into strippers.
Aren't we *all* into strippers?
There might be blind cypherpunks, we don't discriminate[1], and most provincial (in both senses) laws prohibit touch. Probably beer and sweat overwhelms any smells that the blind might dig. Ever see "scent of a woman" that Al Pacino (IIRC) movie? [1] the original phone phreaks were blind, looking (unintended pun) to converse for free, having lots of time, and being precise listeners of DTMF frequencies. Back when the protocols were unprotected... much like the 'net today :-)
"Major Variola (ret)" <mv@cdc.gov> wrote:
Back when the protocols were unprotected... much like the 'net today :-)
Hell, as recently as three years ago the pay phones in Boston could still be red boxed. It may actually still be possible---I haven't tried in a while. Haven't done it here in Austin, either. I discovered (probably not the first time it's been discovered, but new to me anyway) a while ago that the autodial phones in ATMs that connect you to the bank's Retard Line could be fooled into making phone calls for free. You just have to start pulse dialing with the hook before the autodialer kicks in; if you do it right the dial tone goes away fast enough that the autodialer never activates. I never tried simply using my own tone dialer, but it's likely that would also work unless they're smart enough to mute the mic. -- Riad S. Wahby rsw@jfet.org
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
There might be blind cypherpunks, we don't discriminate[1],
There Is No We.
[1] the original phone phreaks were blind,
This is a ridiculous statement, and even worse, leaks information about your nym: [young enough to have not been there]. You are thinking of Joe "Whistler" Joe Egressia (sp?), and the kid form New York whose names escape me at the moment. These two do not even com close to "the original phone phreaks were blind". More like "at least two of the original batch of phreaks were blind". -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org 0xBD4A95BF "...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them." Osama Bin Laden - - - "There aught to be limits to freedom!" George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
for free. You just have to start pulse dialing with the hook before the autodialer kicks in;
The easier way is to wait for the retard to answer, then curse at them. They'll hang up, and in ~60 seconds you'll be back to a dial tone, and the dialer will be none the wiser. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org 0xBD4A95BF "...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them." Osama Bin Laden - - - "There aught to be limits to freedom!" George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
At 04:44 PM 7/24/2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
[1] the original phone phreaks were blind,
This is a ridiculous statement, and even worse, leaks information about your nym: [young enough to have not been there]. You are thinking of Joe "Whistler" Joe Egressia (sp?), and the kid form New York whose names escape me at the moment. These two do not even com close to "the original phone phreaks were blind". More like "at least two of the original batch of phreaks were blind".
Cap'n Crunch may have bad teeth, but his eyes were fine the last time I saw him.
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
Cap'n Crunch may have bad teeth, but his eyes were fine the last time I saw him.
Yeah, but what's left of his mind is more like what's left of his teeth :-( -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org 0xBD4A95BF "...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them." Osama Bin Laden - - - "There aught to be limits to freedom!" George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
This is what J.A. Terranson <measl@mfn.org> said about "Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarde" on 24 Jul 2004 at 18:44
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
There might be blind cypherpunks, we don't discriminate[1],
There Is No We.
[1] the original phone phreaks were blind,
This is a ridiculous statement, and even worse, leaks information about your nym: [young enough to have not been there].
You are thinking of Joe "Whistler" Joe Egressia (sp?), and the kid form New York whose names escape me at the moment. These two do not even com close to "the original phone phreaks were blind". More like "at least two of the original batch of phreaks were blind".
Or are you thinking of the "Three Blind Phreaks", profiled in Wired magazine earlier this year? http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/phreaks.html --Bob.
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