Sorry about the mistake in my question. I had quickly read an article the other day that left the idea in my mind that Cylink was one of the two producers of the Clipper chip, actually quite the opposite is true:

Cylink unveiled a civilian agency alternative to the Clinton Administration-advocated Clipper Chip and SKIPJACK algorithm for data communications security, saying it has begun shipping a product implementation of the Data Encryption Standard (DES) with an IC it claims will do instantaneous triple DES encryption.

Coupled with the article in the Economist about them also making the chip for at least one digital cordless phone, my latent (but growing) paranoia about the intentions of this government with respect to our privacy jumped to the false (??) conlusions I implied in my question. Any more info from anyone about which of these phones might be more or less secure? What kind of algorithms would we really like to see implemented for wireless communications? Who's doing it? (I think there is a story about Qualcomm wanting stronger security for their CDMA digital cellular standard but being forced to weaken or eliminate it due to government(?) pressure--but that may be my paranoia again...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Benjamin McLemore analyst@netcom.com --