! At 3:19 AM 9/2/96, Mark M. wrote: ! ! >On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, James Seng wrote: ! ! >> ps: Sorry for the off-topic discussion. ! > ! >Cpunks is certainly not the best place to be discussing free speech. However, ! >the link between free speech and the spread of cryptographic technology is too ! >close to completely overlook. ! ! I think it is as good a place as any to discuss free speech. The issues ! surrounding Net censorship, Singapore, the CDA, Germany, the shutdown of ! Julf's server, etc., are central to our concerns. ! ! And, in fact, it is "cypherpunk technology" which will have a more lasting ! effect on these issues than mere talking about it in some "free speech ! discussion group" will have. ! ! More disturbing to me recently has been the steady increase in subscribers ! to this list who don't seem to value free speech very highly, who write of ! their own nation's censorship as valiant efforts to protect citizen-units ! from foreign devils, and, even more shockingly, from supposed defenders of ! electronic freedom who are now talking about the need for limits on ! anonymity. How about supporting the effort for comp.cypherpunks ? About the need for limits for anonymity, guess what brought that on? Crime? Yes! The crime of the media monopoly violating the anti-trust acts, because people are ignorant enough to trust the mass media for their news.

tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May) writes:

More disturbing to me recently has been the steady increase in subscribers to this list who don't seem to value free speech very highly, who write of their own nation's censorship as valiant efforts to protect citizen-units from foreign devils, and, even more shockingly, from supposed defenders of electronic freedom who are now talking about the need for limits on anonymity.

The Freedom Knights are the only true defenders of True Free Speech. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps