On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Toto wrote:

Igor Chudov @ home wrote:

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The explanation that Sandy Sandfort gave me mentioned that he rejected my message because it continued a thread where Sandy noticed instances of "flaming". Note that my message was free of any flames, including its quoted part.

The standard of what constitutes a 'flame' seems to rest very much upon whom a comment is directed at, or merely 'vaguely toward'.

Beauty, flames and censorship are all in the eyes of the beholder. However, by providing both "raw" and "cooked" versions of the list, Sandy is allowing readers to choose for themselves whether or not they want someone else's filters applied to their mailbox. Personally, I choose to press the "Delete" key myself. <snip>

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Sandy also states rather plainly that crypto-relevance is not the criterion by which he moderates this list.

This was more than obvious to anyone who cared to cast an objective eye on the process, but their input was pooh-paah'd by the 'washed masses'.

Note that Sandy also stated that the post in question would not be sent to the 'washed masses'.

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I would like to hear your opinions as to whether such policies satisfy the current readership.

Like all of the 'opinions' that were expressed prior to the censorship of the list? I haven't seen any indication that these opinions were given the slightest consideration. This is not the readership's list. It is a private individual's list.

Agreed, and said private individual can do as s/he sees fit. My only objection is that the moderated version has the same name as the original list (sounds like Rogers Cable's recent attempt at "Costs More Unless You Speak Up Now" channels). <snip>

In short, I don't see the moderation as being 'fair', and I don't think it was ever meant to be.

Again, fairness is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't object to the list being filtered, as long as everyone understands that this is happening. What will happen, I wonder, if at the end of the trial period the number of subscribers to the "raw" list outnumbers those who get the "cooked" list, or vice versa? Is that one of the criteria for determining the "success" of the experiment? Cynthia =============================================================== Cynthia H. Brown, P.Eng. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada E-mail: cynthb@sonetis.com Home Page: http://www.sonetis.com/~cynthb/ PGP Key: See Home Page Junk mail will be ignored in the order in which it is received. Klein bottle for rent; enquire within.