LOL, all right, all right. I'll take my lickings and like it. I apologize. I came off far from what I was trying to say. I was really pissed off at what TruthMonger said in the email. I took major offense at his use of Jesus in the mail in the context in which he did. I am NOT one who believes in the banning of sites based on a rating syste, I believe that based on the rating system you should be able to decide from that if *you* want to go there. No one has the right to *ban* a site. I humbly apologize to all and to TruthMonger. Some say one should not apologize on a list because then everyone will make it open season on that person forever. If that is the case, oh well. I believe that if a man is in the wrong he should apologize. I am in the wrong. I apologize. I went overboard on my retort to TruthMonger, not stopping to think how it would make me appear. I unfortuately gave the impression in complete opposites of where I actually stand on the issues. I do not know how to word where I stand because I take a little from each side as to what is the correct way to handle these issues. I joined this listserv because I believe wholeheartedly in the stated reason for the existence of this listserv. I run my own for the same reasons. Folks, I truly am sorry for the remarks I made, and the attitude displayed is not what I believe inside. I believe that every man and women have the right to make there own dicision on issues that affect them. I believe that a fully cooperative effort to come to terms with many of the issues facing us is needed. I do NOT support the government in it's belief that sites should be banned based on their ratings in whatever finally accepted rating system. I do not believe in escrowed key accounting (espeicially when the government choses the key ecrow agents). I do *not* follow the bible thumping christian coalitions that believe that decending on the net with bibles, fishnets, and handcuffs is the answer. I believe in fighting for what one believes in. I firmly believe in protecting the children and guiding them towards an understanding of today's world in *all* it trappings. I am also unsure as to the correct and "right" way to do this. I am open to suggestions, and am willing to openly contribute my own. There are many of you who will undoubtably have blocked my posts as a result of my earlier post. I am sorry for this. For I could learn a few things from those that have, just as I can pass on some to them. For the mistakes I put forth, I humbly apologize. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com