At 6:26 PM 1/10/96, Adam Shostack wrote:

The Wiesenthal center is very influential in Jewish circles. Attacking them directly would probably be a bad idea, and create bad associations for anonymity amongst Jews. (I'll come back to this.)

I for one won't hesitate to criticize these Jew Nazis. Who cares if it "creates bad associations for anonymity amongst Jews"? If a Jew is put off by condemnation of the Wiesenthalistas and their pogrom against free speech, I say good riddance. Didn't those Jews learn anything? It wasn't "free speech" in pre-war Germany that led to the extermination of Jews, it was the rise to power (by a combination of circumstances involving a putsch, the Reichstag fire, a feeble ruler, hunger for strong leadership, dire economic conditions, and other factors) by Hitler and the placing of too much power in the hands of a central government.

methodology. There is also a difference between stopping skinheads and stopping blacks, in that the skinheads decided to wear clothing and tattoos that identify them as skinheads, and thus may more fairly be asked to bear the consequences.

So, wearing the wrong clothes because the clothes identify one as a member of a political group is grounds for being stopped by the police? "Asked to bear the consequences"? Since when? --Tim May (In case anyone is in doubt, I have no beef (or pork) with Jews. I think their religion is just another quaint Middle Eastern idol-worshiping cult, on a par with Islam and Christianity and Zoroastrianism. But I have been following the attempts by such Nazi Jews as the Simon Wiesenthal chapter Jews in L.A. to censor the Net--their first calls went out at least two years ago--and this latest sending of 200+ "advisory letters" to ISPs, if confirmed, will be their undoing. The Thule Network is already using Cypherpunks-type remailers, and this will only gain them more members.) We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."