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Mary Ellen Zurko is Security Architect at Iris, the folks who brought you Lotus Notes.

I suggest she be hung by her toes until she repents for that abomination.

IIRC, back in the www-security mailing list days, she wasn't at Iris at all -- so she wasn't there when the original architecture was laid in place. MLF "former Notes admin" ========================================================== Mark Leighton Fisher Thomson Consumer Electronics fisherm@indy.tce.com Indianapolis, IN "Their walls are built of cannon balls, their motto is 'Don't Tread on Me'"