-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The following message was posted encrypted to a public/private keypair that was posted to the list a few days ago. For those on the list without PGP here is the plaintext version: To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:14:39 -0700 From: "Benjamin Chad Wienke" <woodwose@mailexcite.com> X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole X-Sender-Ip: 207.94.108.51 Organization: MailExcite (http://www.mailexcite.com) Sender: owner-cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Reply-To: "Benjamin Chad Wienke" <woodwose@mailexcite.com> X-Loop: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net At 08:06 PM 11/21/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:

I am still hopeful, longterm, but we may have to go through some dark, ugly, periods of war. And in this war, we know who the enemy is.

We in the U.S. are approximately where Germany was in the mid-1930's. The Holocaust did not start with anti-Semitic genocide; it started with abortion. After abortion became popular, infanticide, euthanasia and assisted suicide were introduced. (This is where the U.S. is at; witness Jack Kevorkian and partial-birth infanticide.) Once these became popular, they began to become mandatory for individuals that were or were likely to become a burden to the state. After that, expanding the focus to include Jews, Communists, Gypsies, and other groups on Hitler's shit list was a trivial exercise. I believe that the same process that happened in Germany is at work in the U.S.; it is just progressing at a slower rate. If there is another civil war in the U.S., I believe that the U.N. will become involved. I have been hearing stories of Russian soldiers escorting trespassers out of the U.N. biosphere zones of various national parks for several years now. American soldiers may have pangs of conscience when ordered to fire on fellow Americans, but Russian or Chinese soldiers most likely wouldn't. Perhaps acquiring East Bloc weapons isn't such a bad idea after all if you can steal compatible equipment from the enemy...

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