Re: National Citizen-Unit
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In> Governor's Budget Includes Money to Set Up Gang-Tracking In> Network In> [...] In> [A]s part of the governor's anti-gang proposals, he's In> proposing to spend $625,000 worth of state and federal money In> to set up a gang-tracking computer database and network. In> Four agents of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation will be In> assigned to do nothing but gather and maintain information In> about gangs in the state's four regions. <snip> In> Information on the database could include a picture, a In> description, the gang affiliation, criminal convictions, In> crimes that a person is suspected in, and possible In> nicknames. -=> Quoting In:bdolan@usit.net to Harka <=- In> The important thing to note is that - as I understand the In> description of the program - a person does not have to commit a In> crime to be included in the database. They just have to have In> contact with a person or group which is already in it. This has been going on in Germany for several years now under the name "Raster-Fahndung" (cross-reference-search). What it means is as you write it: even mere contacts to suspected "terrorists, gang-members, drug-dealers" etc. is enough, to get you flagged as "suspected supporter of [see above]". An example of how one could get into that was being presented by a german civil liberties group: Let's say, there is a non-permitted demonstration going on in City A of "anarchic chaots" (the german term for ultra-left-wing groups). The police installs street barriers around the city and screens the drivers licences in search of potential demonstrators. Bob drives up, shows his ID and happens to be believed by the police man to be somehow affiliated with the demonstration. They might search his car and will let him go after that, if nothing is found. However, his name will be put in a central database as "suspected supporter of unconstitutional groups". That is enough to target his entire family and close friends with possible surveillance etc., if the police (or actually the interior intelligence agency "for the protection of the constitution") chooses to. Bob will never know of that and although, he has nothing to do with the demonstrators, his name will be in such a database as a suspect. That example shows, that the law can be (mis)used to almost unlimited surveillance on pretty much everybody to the hearts extent of the "law-enforcement" agencies. And guess what? They will. Ciao Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE ...more info at */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! -> http://www.epic.org */ /* E-mail: harka(at)nycmetro.com (PGP-encrypted mail pref'd) */ /* PGP public key available upon request. [KeyID: 04174301] */ /* F-print: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBMz83nTltEBIEF0MBAQGNnwf8CL7L2pEY1Qfnfh+5D5LWwTb/DXWAr6+C TJcsuBYA8MQ94tNhM7DDwBLlf60AKVgKJjh/BX6JEOWMrXLXewkDxNCj9PG1iDwV bPXmEsI8ovX8EZJrNjFAhF7pG83bwHzD+23xpamx+9fYq6T2hHpZse7XEavYNBqv 0+8vJiCxsvuLn9q8CWng+KgNYmCk9JXJUj+8jUvJJHgbXt+Bkvech4mfL7cW7nvN HPAMXalKWaWrcroJAnz/2bi2JlMovfVftU1u79CUrPi9rPMYJJAaD28VEfeCHd5T e9WfTnu6F3C67CEZ0TCR+toQxLM5RgNej3mv69OiVyntNnmaPD9GeQ== =1e2d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...
harka@nycmetro.com wrote:
In> Governor's Budget Includes Money to Set Up Gang-Tracking In> Network
In> [A]s part of the governor's anti-gang proposals, he's In> proposing to spend $625,000 worth of state and federal money In> to set up a gang-tracking computer database and network.
Are they going to start with members of the legislature and law enforcement agencies? (Might as well clear out the worst of the bunch first.)
In> Four agents of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation will be In> assigned to do nothing but gather and maintain information In> about gangs in the state's four regions.
This plan was intially supposed to be introduced in Oakland, but its designers soon realized that, outside of CIA operations, there was very little criminal activity in the area.
-=> Quoting In:bdolan@usit.net to Harka <=-
In> The important thing to note is that - as I understand the In> description of the program - a person does not have to commit a In> crime to be included in the database. They just have to have In> contact with a person or group which is already in it.
This should put law enforcement officers at the top of the list. Theoretically, in order not to be included in the database, cops would have to avoid all contact with criminals. (I think I'm starting to like this idea!)
This has been going on in Germany for several years now under the name "Raster-Fahndung" (cross-reference-search). What it means is as you write it: even mere contacts to suspected "terrorists, gang-members, drug-dealers" etc. is enough, to get you flagged as "suspected supporter of [see above]".
I suppose they can merge in the voter registration database, for starters, and round up all those supporters of the thugs on Capitol Hill. (Even those who voted for the losers are guilty of 'attempted commission of a crime', even if Donald, Mickey and Goofey entered the fray with the best of intentions.) -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html
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