The rule below involve no loss, and it works quicker by putting the whole cypherpunks thing inside a set of braces, rather than checking each message 6 times to see if its from the cypherpunks list. Optimizing a bit more, You don't need a lockfiles on /dev/null, unless you want to make sure the messages go in as whole units. Also, theres no reason to send the whole message, we save time by only sending the header to /dev/null. Procmail just frees the body. :0 * (^From owner-cypherpunks@toad.com|^Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com) { :0 h * ^From:.*perry@imsi.com * ^(To|cc): jamesd@netcom.com /dev/null ... } | Apply and modify as necessary. The "kill Perry's replies to James" | recipe is a bit lossy, (i.e. it will kill anything that Perry replies | to from Netcom on the cpunks list) but we can't have everything can | we? Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume