Re: Deloitte-Touche, e$pam plug, Moderation, Cypherpunks as a cresote bush

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 09:09 PM 2/5/97 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote:
In the meantime, if you're interested in e$, or financial crypto, or other stuff I'm interested ("it don't say e$pam until Bob says it says e$pam" :-)), you might want to check it.
I think that Bob's e$ list should be considered a viable alternative to the other two filtered cpunks lists; I recommend it to people looking for a moderated alternative to the list. (I get e$, but use Eudora and procmail to suck out the duplicates where messages are copied from lists I already get.) He also finds a lot of the stuff that used to show up on cpunks but doesn't any more because people have wandered away. I've been meaning to write up a long message explaining why I think I'm about to drop off of the list. It's peculiar to spend a lot of time discussing things with a group of people over the course of several years and then disappear without saying why. But I'm having trouble coming up with anything more profound than "it's not interesting any more." Philosophically, I agree with Lucky - it looks to me like it's time to kill the list and move on to other things. But that's not my choice to make, and perhaps other people can still extract something useful from this. More power to them if they can. I'm starting to think that cpunks may be similar to college, in that it's a good thing for a few years, but if you stick around too long you just get bitter and cranky and frustrated because the new people keep talking about the same old problems. Don't they know we've already talked about that? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQEVAgUBMvmSHP37pMWUJFlhAQGu3Qf/WTpImfcNb4883V2h/JHKsZh1hWR+hrSH e7hgtUAujphktzteZi6NqC47QEQHRIbgT/SRHelDB4lJLPv3TtIN09ZUwK6GWb/F QfmoyPXBVfM5Pt/FqPqtPpXnehC7r71SO0jQ2qKqTrhcuSDYNmOjtCrjK/BIEJ7l mMYcxY7JKBq0H8u1BNzZaMfCkEvDytUejgsevusWGGfkwodUSTon81Kbxmy7Yg2w 3vOmESgMz2Vm2av2bHTYBy3CSy3JzB8m2OPQo+Wang6WJDfvJaDaALGuHgem8PH8 0jCjBww2vEOJ0xj62oQ/mD2heEe+TZZnDZ5ZRynID1wOOm7SOOOeAg== =+SRl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles@netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- A million monkeys operating under the pseudonym "Greg Broiles <gbroiles@netbox.com>" typed:
I think that Bob's e$ list should be considered a viable alternative to the other two filtered cpunks lists; I recommend it to people looking for a moderated alternative to the list.
I like "e$", although I seem to be too busy to contribute regularly to _any_ forum recently. (I'm always available for Real Life Meetings in local bars, though... Anybody going to visit Amsterdam soon?)
I've been meaning to write up a long message explaining why I think I'm about to drop off of the list. It's peculiar to spend a lot of time discussing things with a group of people over the course of several years and then disappear without saying why. But I'm having trouble coming up with anything more profound than "it's not interesting any more."
Hey, that's a sufficiently profound "death of cpunks" statement for me. I feel the same way-- though I've never been a very active participant, I really dropped out a few months ago. I feel like there is more to learn and discuss. _Much_ more. It keeps me awake at night sometimes, not knowing exactly what it is but waiting for it. But I've had my fill of cypherpunks, and my Objectivist newsgroup (humanities.philosophy.objectivism), and simplistic libertarianism. Keep in touch. :-) Bryce Not speaking for DigiCash. PGP sig follows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMvpXvUjbHy8sKZitAQGJ4gL+LClz+b4VwAQdFra5GowzNDOqKEqnhpib yri3mEEFKU9x35J9Dqu8XHu/TQOJuB5S8LdAmtesvLuKEGkjpVKPHXrSDik5efyp rWY9pJbjq/UBqYosCgx2PzHILTsh/UMw =ZVwu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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