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Oh, this is just charming. People are still dying, and now you're going to sit on the sidelines writing email messages to people about what they're discussing on some mailing list.

Better than being the one to bring it up in the first place. Really, is a crypto list an appropriate place for that sort of tripe, any more than it is for this?

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You can't count up human lives and say ``this entity is more evil than this entity.'' It doesn't work that way. People are people, regardless, and usually don't deserve that kind of premature termination.

Your use of the word "usually" betrays your hypocrisy. If some people "don't deserve that kind of premature termination," it follows that some do: presumably those that are more evil than the rest.

I do believe that there are varying degrees of evil, yes. I do not believe they can be differentiated by counting bodies. I remarked `usually', because of a practical bend; the Rhwandans certainly don't deserve their lot, but there are others who well deserve premature termination in one form or another; Dahmer comes to mind. From time to time, I thought that things would be better off if I were to simply die. Put another way, the situation in Rhwanda distorts the usual life-and-death cycle, by killing indiscriminately people who should live much longer. Dahmer, a man who lived in death, could hardly come to a more appropriate end. As I look back on that paragraph, I do acknoledge it was poorly worded, and I apologize for the difficulties. No one, not even Dahmer deserves the hardships Rhwandans (to pick a convenient example) are going through.

So you're saying that fewer people would die in Rwanda if we discussed something else? What exactly is it that you think the members of the Cypherpunks list should do about it (assuming for the sake of argument that "we" wanted to do anything)?

I just don't think it's appropriate to center a long flame about. Does it not cause you, too, anguish to see such a situation fought over like a dog bone? - -- Graham Hughes http://A-abe.resnet.ucsb.edu/~graham/ MIME & PGP mail OK. (define pgp-fingerprint "E9 B7 5F A0 F8 88 9E 1E 7C 62 D9 88 E1 03 29 5B") (require 'stddisclaim) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM3tIqyqNPSINiVE5AQFYPgP+MdJRFnhYL6UktZkVKbZhduRvVD56YfMk RG3KzSr5H5Jr7hE8kcURgXcfpeHTeNjmj5QRSsLBI4L9ldLFeVHWkIzhk4L/ajhV 3hQdJWvJSixZbDLn+k6yFaFOm/VAXlE7pI7VRTY/iggw8RrtlT4yd/dUHwOV+xDj Dn47e3bKc0w= =L0Wl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----