At 2:45 PM 4/14/96 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:

And, yes, it's [X.25] a lousy environment to do full-duplex character echo over.

I implemented and have been supporting a system with full-duplex character echo over X.25. I can only agree with Bill Stewart's assessment, but you hold your nose and do it. I have learned that an X.25 "standard" network is about as standard as a K&R C compiler. Sure you can talk to the network, but each network is different in what you have to do to get it to send you the ASCII characters so you can echo them. Many times you have to use non-standard, network specific extensions. I am also responsible for getting Zmodem style data transfers to work. To make it work means the network must be fully 8-bit transparent, AND send the last chunk of data eventually (within a few seconds) to complete the transfer. Don't even ask about getting Zmodem transfers working thru X.25 to various "Unix" systems. Now you know why I claimed the title, "Wizard of Trailing Edge Technology" in Dogbert's New World Order. Regards - Bill [To be complete, I also do work in electronic commerce, Java and other things you see on this list.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz@netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA