I just thought I'd interject that the discussion here on laundering money on the futures market might be a lot more appropriate over on the extropians mailing list than here on cypherpunks. I don't mean to be a "stick to topic" fascist or anything, and I realize a lot of the participants in this discussion currently have problems with the extropians list at present, but come to think of it, these people (and there are, as far as I can tell, more than just two or three) probably have between them the time or means to set up their own "extropians list for people tired of ExI's list" mailing list and this might be an appropriate means for getting off-topic discussions off of cypherpunks. Comments? Phil