I have a copy of FIPS181 with Appendix A intact. I can mail a copy if you like.

Why bother just find it on another site, there are plenty out there.

The point of my NIST ftp site question was not to find a place to get DES source, I know I can get DES source in lots of places. I was just trying to find out if the NIST site still had FIPS-181 with DES code. Its presence on a internationally accessible *US government* site would be an embarrassment to the anti-export camp.

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I wonder if [NIST will] ship [hard copies of DES source code] to an address outside of the US or Canada? I wonder if the people who package and mail the stuff even look at it?

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Doesn't really matter, does it? Printed source code is available in hundreds of places, and doesn't require a CJR for export. Schneier's _book_ never had trouble; just the disk.

I know, but I thought it would be kind of ironic if anyone could get DES source directly from the federal government. Jim_Miller@suite.com