I believe that Cypherpunks is beyond hope of recovery. In fact, each day Cypherpunk (as in cypherpunks@toad.com) lives on, it does damage to the cause. Let's kill the list. Once and for all. Let the hard core crypto go to Coderpunks, the politics to Cryptography, and the garbage into the void.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't(wasn't) there an implied threat of moderation on the cryptography@c2.net list? Mr. M started it with the intent of getting away from much of the cruft (ADD, & etc.) that had accumlated here, and he was quite open about moderating it if he thought it needed it.